Reference this post by cemper.
bessie wrote: cemper, I’m not seeing your town read on somitomi, can you please elaborate?
You are referring to this post, correct? I see an excuse for not posting earlier, some strategy discussion, a warning not to trust me, and a single question to jimbob regarding his vote on Vicarin.cemper93 wrote:I liked the initial analysis post, it had reasonable talk about the setup and good questions. It was, at most, slightly lacking in commitment.
Can you post I link? I can’t seem to locate the posts to which you are referring.cemper93 wrote:Somitomi also commented reasonably on PeacefulWhale's evaluation of Sabrar and on LaserGuy's behavior.
I’m not quite following the reason for your vote, is this entirely based on me not going full throttle in support of town PRs claiming and working out a night action strategy (which seems to be the stated reason), or is there something else in my content you find suspicious (implied by “all around”)?cemper93 wrote:By the way, regarding the Laser Guy Gambit, everyone seems to have agreed by now that power roles shouldn't claim. I also originally thought so, but I believe that with sanity not being revealed upon death (which very much surprised me also -- Sabrar, what do you know about the mod's intention?), this is less cut-and-dry. If cop only gets town results or watcher / tracker only get "no movement", these don't help confirm townies. IMO that's a large problem, and bessie pings me slightly for not seeing that. (Everyone else who doesn't see that is not bessie, so they're OK.)
This was just bad analysis all around, which is completely out of character for her.
I noted it because at the time I couldn’t think of a specific example, but was fairly certain that there was one out there.
It was also unclear, from the Gojoe post I linked, as to whether or not a miller would be part of the 12 player setup.Sabrar wrote:Setup is described as "newbie friendly and reasonably straight forward" in the sign-up thread. It is evident from the Gojoe post you linked earlier that balancing town!PR-s is done by varying sanity levels only. There is no hint at scum!PR-s or hidden mechanics. The question was unnecessary.
I find this interesting that some of you view me as defending BoomFrog, when I see myself as attacking those who are quick to slap a scum label on him without any indication they have actually tried to analyze (or even carefully read) his content.flicky1991 wrote:I don't understand why you're defending BoomFrog so much.
Reference Peaceful Whale’s post here.
Why did you post this?Peaceful Whale wrote:Players who “joke” confirmed.
Re PW's Boomfrog post-by-post analysis.
Hmm, this is the second time you’ve said you might lean scum on Sabrar after a reread.Peaceful Whale wrote:Well, it’s a better reads list than I gave. I believe too is town. Middle is unconfirmed, and bottom is scum. I am currently surprised to see Sabrar there, but maybe that will change as I read him.
I didn’t come to BoomFrog’s aid, and he didn’t need me to, BoomFrog doesn’t have a posting restriction and can end this any time he wants. I came to your aid, Peaceful Whale. Not because I want you to blindly follow me (and note that I have not yet committed to a read on Boomfrog), but because I wanted you to actually read and think about his (and everyone else’s) content. This game isn’t just one long RVS, if you call someone scum you are expected to do some analysis and give reasons based on their content. I've discussed this with you a little before, here's one example. And it's ok if your read doesn't lead you to the same place as me.Peaceful Whale wrote:Bessie came to his aid, *possible* (small) correlation
I agree with your suspicions, I am not yet sure if we are going to come to the same conclusions.Sabrar wrote:My issue is with your quick judgment call on not voting him today based on his 'other' content.
Woof! You… have no idea…. no, I think you do… I could barely read the thread…BoomFrog wrote: Also, the number of people I'm annoying appears to outweigh the number of people I'm entertaining, even if I am entertaining myself and bessie immensely.
Woof? Do I look like someone that can be easily influenced? Err, um, you don’t have a cookie and a squeaky toy, do you?Sabrar wrote:I assume you used 'woof' in crossover to subtly influence Zen. You could have done the same here with bessie.BoomFrog wrote:Assuming at the time that I was just woofing a little at the intro as an homage to CrossOver, why does that indicate scumminess?
I just had to take a short break to recover from this. My husband just yelled what the hell’s so funny from the other room…Hari Seldon wrote:By the way, I must say I am disappointed you broke character. Later today, I was going to post a Doggy Dictionary consisting of generic responses for you to use as quotes.
Ruff, grrr…BoomFrog wrote:(the choice of a cute Pomiranian-chihuahua mix as my avatar was to manipulate Bessie though... )
The games have been getting a lot longer (as cemper noticed), especially in the last year. Shakespeare really raised the bar, and then well Crossover . My goal used to be minimum one good solid post every 24-36 hours, but I feel that’s not enough anymore. Now it’s a couple hours a night, and only posting at night means I’m always catching up. But I’m not good at organizing my thoughts, so I take a long time to make a post. Anyway, flicky, maybe try sorting by author, I find it easier to do reads lists that way.flicky1991 wrote:Grr I'm running out of time before I'm doing other things for another hour, and I'm only halfway down page 4 of the reread. I have no idea how the regulars manage to get all this analysis done - do you have, like, two hours a day to spare or something?
You are misinterpreting my reason for finding Peaceful Whale suspicious. Look at the time stamps in context with his explanation.somitomi wrote:
You're giving me way too much credit. Besides, while this happened after the post in question, Peaceful Whale has been marked "suspicious" for the same thing in this game.
somitomi wrote:bessie made a lot of remarks about what people have said. She defended BoomFrog quite strongly which I found odd and it could be experienced mafia trying to look town. I think she's town1
1but Secret Santa makes me doubt myself a lot
Hmm, see also this.
somitomi wrote:Based on Secret Santa I'd say keep an eye on bessie. TRUST NOONE.
Well ok, I’m sure many of you don’t know this, but I have a history of having a slightly townie meta. [/sarcasm]
I also have, in the past, gently voiced my suspicions of people that auto-meta read me as townie, and slapped a town label on me, sometimes based on very little content. [/heavy sarcasm]
I’ve called people scummy for auto slapping a town label on me, and you can expect the same from me if you try to use my townie meta coupled with one successful game as mafia to slap a suspicious label on me. If you’re suspicious of me, fine, vote for me, but you better back it up with some analysis from this game.
Ok, where was I?
Hmm, interesting post from Madge. Enthusiasm, analysis, reads, and all on D1 too! Trying out a new meta? Oh, and I’m not going to answer your question, because I suspect you already know my alignment.Madge wrote:- Bessie is on the war path and I love it. Are you scum again? What if that's your new meta - freezeblade 2.0
Ok but seriously you really should do this because now I want to see a picture of your dog.Madge wrote:- Should I change my avatar? I've got a greyhound so there'd be no woofing, my content would be *sleep sleep* with a *runs madly down the hallway* sprinkled in every 10 posts
I expected a little more of a reply from BoomFrog, and for him to not remove his vote right away. But this was before I knew he was going to go on so long with the woofs.Hari Seldon wrote:@Bessie, what is interesting here?BoomFrog wrote:
BoomFrog, any reasons for your vote?
Yeah, well, I should warn you super secret meta tells can come back and bite you in the ass.Hari Seldon wrote:I believe I have a secret and reliable tell for Bessie from Santa. I do not wish to reveal it, at least at this time, but she has already shown no indication of it here. 
Ok, ninja's by a few, but it's already been way more than two hours, spread out over my night, so I'll reply and post a reads list tomorrow afternoon.