Sabrar wrote:This here is my issue. I understand why you find those points scummy but you should realize that those are not alignment-indicative in Madge's case.
I said this in another game and its morning so I don’t have time to dig up a reference right now because I don't remember exactly where it was, but I’m not going to ignore scummy behavior from Madge and then attack other players for the same scummy behavior. I do realize Madge has scummy content as town. It doesn’t make her content not scummy.
Sabrar wrote:I don't think I do. I believe calling someone scummy and attacking them are the same thing and are interchangeable. Voting does not enter into it.
It does. I may attack Madge’s scummy behavior, but I will also take into consideration that it may be part of her meta when I am deciding on my vote.
Sabrar wrote:I don't remember doing the first so fmpov is not relevant.
You are probably correct. I may be thinking of BoomFrog in Crossover, no time to check now.
Sabrar wrote:I'm currently voting Madge and would be fine with her lynch. I'm not defending her, I'm questioning your motivation of attacking her in case she turns up Town.
Interesting that you are the one voting for Madge, but that you are setting me up to be suspicious in the event Madge flips town. But after Madge’s last post, I think it less likely that this will be an issue.
Madge wrote:The reason I'm defending PW is the argument is STUPID. He slept 16 hours or played Portal or was working three jobs so he could afford to surprise all of us with plane tickets to his home town for an xkcdia meetup and live mafia game - WHO CARES. He didn't post and not posting for 16 hours is not scummy, and arguing back and forth over it is SO STUPID it boggles my mind. He could be the scummiest scummer who ever scummed and he could win the game as the leader of the mafia with his tactics and cunning, and the 16 hour thing would STILL BE A STUPID THING TO PIN HIM FOR. I don't know how clearer I can get. And I feel like I'm being terrible by talking about it so much but I swear Bessie spent HALF OF HER POST talking about it. WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT HOW MUCH PEACEFUL WHALE SLEPT, BESSIE? Or, because I don't mean literally how do you care so much about how much he literally slept, I actually mean why is this sixteen hour delay so concerning to you? Is it because he wasn't $100% honest about what he did in those sixteen hours and we're taking lynch all liarsto an extreme?
Have you even read my posts?
Peaceful Whale, by his own admission, lied about why he did not post until for what was him morning on RL day 2. He originally claimed he went to sleep before the game started. I have a theory that he actually went to sleep before he got a response in scum chat, and he messed up on his initial claim. There is also the interesting coincidence that Peaceful Whale’s down time correlated almost exactly with somitomi’s down time, and somitomi used a similar reason for not posting, that he forgot the game was about to start
. This claim is interesting in itself, because the Gojoe thread exchange that took place after Suzaku announced the game was almost ready between Peaceful Whale and somitomi does not seem like it’s from two people who would forget about this game (reference my spoiler in this post
Madge wrote:@Bessie are you accusing PW of copying something you did in a game in May 2017? .... Like, do you really think he's studying old games? That's the sort of thing you'd do. Not what PW would do.
No. I’m accusing Peaceful Whale of copying my meta and doing something I did in Secret Santa 2017
, and in other previous games.
Madge wrote:No justification given; it's all gut reads, you should know by now that you're lucky I'm giving you a Naughty and Nice list.
I will take Madge’s scummy meta in to account and not attack her for this completely-within-her-meta scummy remark. But the previous attacks on Madge in this post are valid.
Vicarin wrote: Or maybe they had it suggested to them by a scum teammate and went about it in a transparent way? Can't just ignore the scum daychat, they must have had quite the long conversation by now.
Vicarin, you’re new so I’ll explain this one a little better. I am accusing Peaceful Whale of copying my meta to appear townie. Note: I accused Peaceful Whale of copying my reads in Crossover (no time to dig up links right now because Crossover was long). I’m known for having a townie meta (as cemper keeps reminding everyone), for tunneling (as Peaceful Whale himself pointed out in this game), and for analyzing confirmation posts (which almost no one else does). For an example see Shakespeare, where Sabrar said he was eagerly awaiting my confirmation post analysis here
somitomi wrote:Actually, may I ask what conclusions you draw from this?
That you and LaserGuy are fishing to see if I would easily swing my vote to Peaceful Whale, or if you’re going to have to work on me.
bessie – Labrador retriever
Vicarin – enthusiastic newbie town
BoomFrog – wise dog
Hari Seldon – observant non-newbie
jimbobmacdoodle – overwhelmed townie
flicky1991 – pretty bird
Sabrar – fluffy puppy
cemper93 – still thinking about him
LaserGuy- still thinking about him
Madge – inexperience challenged scum
Peaceful Whale - newbie scum
somitomi – newbie scum