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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:48 pm UTC

Yablo wrote:
Ginger wrote:Yet God did say: "Men and men laying with each other are abominations..." dunno about lezzies though?

All the proof I need to tell me God is male.


If gay male sex is encouraged, then as a straight male that's less competition for women. If gay female sex is encouraged, that's less women that would be interested in me. So it's proof god hates straight men.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Dauric » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:58 pm UTC

Quercus wrote:I suspect that mental health plays a big role here too. Poor mental health is associated with poverty, both as cause and effect, and from personal experience you sure as hell ain't cooking a healthy, cheap meal during acute anxiety or depression (if you have the luxury of time and a freezer you might manage to cook enough to last you in between feeling like shit, but many poor people don't have those luxuries). Same story with disability and chronic illness.


Also food itself has an effect on mood. Calories help the body release the endorphins and other brain chemicals associated with happyness. A rough day and many, probably even most people will "cheat" on a healthy diet with unhealthy typically high-calorie "comfort foods" to raise morale. If your job(s) leave you feeling tired and hopeless on a daily basis your daily food choices are likely to be effected. There's a long-term vicious cycle to this of course, as eating that way leads to declines in overall health, which raises the incidence and duration of a bout of depression, encouraging more "comfort eating" to counteract the immediate problem.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:00 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:If gay male sex is encouraged, then as a straight male that's less competition for women. If gay female sex is encouraged, that's less women that would be interested in me. So it's proof god hates straight men.

Well, some of my favorite co-workers, therapists, psychiatrists, cops and w/evs are males. And God is a f bombing straight male. And Jesus, even though he born in the desert, was a white male at my Catholic high school. AND It's time to accept lesbians, gay people, intersex ppls... all of them. We need a gay and lesbian social liberals rainbows everywhere revolution, we NEED to promote gay and lesbian and trans* prides, pride in themselves so... they don't seek out risky behaviors and alcohol drinking to self-medicate themselves to death and oblivion. You can't take back hatred. So try loving more America please okay? <3 You USA.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby ObsessoMom » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:22 am UTC

Turkey is calling its incursion into Syria to attack Kurds Operation Olive Branch. Seriously.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:08 am UTC

Well, olives are generally treated in lye, which is highly caustic, so...

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:11 am UTC

ObsessoMom's article wrote:The YPG, which controls much of north-eastern Syria, is believed by Turkey to be an extension of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which has fought for Kurdish autonomy in Turkey for three decades.

The YPG denies any direct links and is a crucial part of a US-backed alliance battling Islamic State (IS) jihadists in Syria.

Ankara has condemned the US for supporting the YPG and this latest development in the Syrian civil war puts Turkey on a collision course with its Nato ally.

Bad bad naughty naughty USA... supporting, as Turkey Believes, terrorists. We... keep supporting weird strange terrorists? Like, did anyone know that the Bush family was friends w/Osama Bin Laden's family? The More You Know and now stars are gonna shoot out over my head.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Soupspoon » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:38 pm UTC


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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:39 pm UTC

Ginger wrote:
ObsessoMom's article wrote:The YPG, which controls much of north-eastern Syria, is believed by Turkey to be an extension of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which has fought for Kurdish autonomy in Turkey for three decades.

The YPG denies any direct links and is a crucial part of a US-backed alliance battling Islamic State (IS) jihadists in Syria.

Ankara has condemned the US for supporting the YPG and this latest development in the Syrian civil war puts Turkey on a collision course with its Nato ally.

Bad bad naughty naughty USA... supporting, as Turkey Believes, terrorists. We... keep supporting weird strange terrorists? Like, did anyone know that the Bush family was friends w/Osama Bin Laden's family? The More You Know and now stars are gonna shoot out over my head.


And all of the Bin Ladens were terrorists, rather than just the unloved son widely considered a worthless dumbass playboy from one of the disgraced wives?

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:43 pm UTC

Osama Bin Laden's family article wrote:Osama bin Laden was largely disowned by his family but he remained in contact with his mother. Most of Osama bin Laden’s family spell their family name Bin Laden or even BinLaden rather than bin Laden. Carmen bin Laden insists that Osama bin Laden brother continue to quietly support him despite public avowals to the contrary.

That article says they DID in fact support him.

Well, his bro-dude and like, families keep secrets you know? So at least One of them was supporting his terrorist activities, despite, claiming not to publicly.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Sableagle » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:42 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:
Yablo wrote:
Ginger wrote:Yet God did say: "Men and men laying with each other are abominations..." dunno about lezzies though?
All the proof I need to tell me God is male.
If gay male sex is encouraged, then as a straight male that's less competition for women. If gay female sex is encouraged, that's less women that would be interested in me. So it's proof god hates straight men.
Maybe God just really doesn't like anal, not even at six degrees of separation.

A lot of superstitions arise from observed but unexplained events. Dodgy shellfish make a load of people ill at a party? Something invisible and powerful must get angry when you eat shellfish, so don't do that. Wine makes you start a fight with a camel and wake up in the desert with a nasty hangover and no water to be found? Wine must be evil, so don't drink it. Trying to live on nothing but the meat of wild rabbits isn't working? They must be an abomination, so don't eat them.

These days we have microbiologists and virologists, and they'd agree with that godly advice not to have unprotected anal sex in a soapless world.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:57 pm UTC

They definitely noticed that MSM tended to acquire diseases much more often than others, just as they noticed that incest led to birth defects, washing your hands before you ate reduced the chance of disease as did bathing at least once a week, shellfish tended to be more prone to disease than regular fish, etc. Today's morality is only possible with the technology we have today. If condoms, abortion and medicine were to disappear tomorrow, we would go back to Victorian era attitudes towards sex... which explains a bit about religious objections to sex ed and birth control.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Sableagle » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:59 pm UTC

Spoiler for triggery content (see headline).

Newsweek ‘reviewing relationship’ with Pakistan franchise after editor makes light of child abuse
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Newsweek, an American weekly magazine and the parent company of Newsweek Pakistan, is reviewing its relationship with the Pakistan franchise after Fasih Ahmed, editor of Newsweek Pakistan made light of child sexual abuse on his Twitter handle.

Fasih Ahmed took to Twitter late Tuesday night and stated, “The sexual abuse of children will always exist. You can never eliminate it. Sometimes it leads to great art. So there’s also that”.
The sexual abuse of children will always exist. You can never eliminate it. Sometimes it leads to great art. So there’s also that.

— Fasih Ahmed (@therealfasih) January 23, 2018


After being repeatedly tagged by disgruntled Twitter users, Newsweek disassociated itself with the views presented by Fasih Ahmed by tweeting,”Recent tweets by Newsweek Pakistan editor @therealfasih do not represent the views of @Newsweek. We are reviewing our relationship with @NewsweekPak, which operates under a license agreement.”

Commenting on the recent capture of a key suspect in Zainab’s rape and murder case, Fasih Ahmed stated, “On the bright side, at least he’s [the suspect] straight”.

On the bright side, at least he’s straight https://t.co/pSGz6wPKEg

— Fasih Ahmed (@therealfasih) January 23, 2018


Fasih Ahmed further tweeted, “Rape by, say, Obama is rape. Rape by, say, Tom Cruise is everyone’s dream come true. All subjective”.


Newsweek reviews ties with Pakistan franchise after child abuse comments

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Twitter posts by Fasih Ahmed, the scion of a wealthy family that owns the local Newsweek Pakistan magazine, sparked outrage on social media at a time of deep anger in the conservative Muslim nation over the rape and murder of a seven-year-old girl.

“The sexual abuse of children will always exist. You can never eliminate it. Sometimes it leads to great art. So there’s also that,” Ahmed wrote in a now deleted tweet on January 18.

In another deleted tweet, Ahmed wrote that unlike being raped by former U.S. President Barack Obama, being raped by actor Tom Cruise is “everyone’s dream come true”, adding that everything is subjective.

Newsweek on Wednesday tweeted that it was “reviewing” its relationship with the Pakistan publication, “which operates under a license agreement”.

Newsweek, which is owned by American digital news company IBT Media, and Newsweek Pakistan did not immediately respond to Reuters request for comment. Ahmed could not be reached for comment.

After the social media backlash against Ahmed, a prominent Pakistani literary festival held in the central city of Lahore announced that it had received “several complaints” and had accepted Ahmed’s resignation from its board of governors.

Ahmed’s father, Iqbal Z. Ahmed, is one of Pakistan’s most prominent businessmen and his brother is the founder of the Lahore Literature Festival.

Initially Ahmed responded to online criticism by saying the rest of the country was in denial about child abuse.

“Child sexual abuse has always happened, is happening, and will continue,” he tweeted, adding that those showing outrage on social media or participating in vigils were not actually helping the victims.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby elasto » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:31 pm UTC

Taliban fighters, whom US-led forces spent billions of dollars trying to defeat, are now openly active in 70% of Afghanistan, a BBC study has found. Months of research across the country show how areas the Taliban threaten or control have surged since foreign combat troops left in 2014.

The Afghan government played down the report, saying it controls most areas.

A network of BBC reporters across Afghanistan spoke to more than 1,200 individual local sources, in every one of the country's 399 districts, to build up a comprehensive picture of all militant attacks over that period.

These conversations happened either in person or by telephone and all information was checked with at least two and often as many as six other sources. In some cases BBC reporters even went to local bus stations to find people travelling in from remote and inaccessible districts in order to double check the situation there.

The results show that about 15 million people - half the population - are living in areas that are either controlled by the Taliban or where the Taliban are openly present and regularly mount attacks.

During the investigation, evidence of a hike in Taliban taxation across the country was also uncovered. In districts where they are openly present, the militants force farmers, local businesses and even commercial goods convoys to pay them tax while still leaving it to the government to foot the bill for basic services such as schools and hospitals.

"They are charging people for the electricity that we supply!" one chief of a southern district reported.

The BBC's research has been reviewed by the Kabul-based Afghanistan Analysts Network, which has been reporting on Afghanistan since 2009.

Co-Director Kate Clark said: "Such a well-researched investigation into the Afghan war is rare and very welcome. The findings are shocking, but unfortunately not surprising - they ring true as an accurate mapping of the extent of the conflict.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost an estimated $2.4Tn.

Ho hum.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:01 am UTC

Is that including what Iran and Pakistan have spent in order to keep the Taliban armed?

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Coyne » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:30 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Is that including what Iran and Pakistan have spent in order to keep the Taliban armed?

No, that's extra. Probably a very small number by comparison, too. (I don't know it.)

"Spending ourselves broke while our enemies spend pennies: priceless."


Addendum: It's especially priceless since we put the Taliban in power in the first place.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby elasto » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:28 pm UTC

Coyne wrote:"Spending ourselves broke while our enemies spend pennies: priceless."

It's weird. I thought the big takeaway from the collapse of the soviet union was that we provoked our enemy into spending themselves into bankruptcy. Yet somehow we were the ones falling for it when the twin towers collapsed.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it I guess.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:32 pm UTC

We didn't spend the USSR into bankruptcy. Gorbachev tried to enact market and democratic reforms, but the moment he allowed free speech everyone told him they hated communism. He decided not to repress anything, thinking it would pass, but everyone revolted all at once, and well, it collapsed.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:44 pm UTC

elasto wrote:
Taliban fighters, whom US-led forces spent billions of dollars trying to defeat, are now openly active in 70% of Afghanistan, a BBC study has found. Months of research across the country show how areas the Taliban threaten or control have surged since foreign combat troops left in 2014.

The Afghan government played down the report, saying it controls most areas.


Ho hum.

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We never should have left alone foreign countries 'cause, now, like terrorists are coming back? The Taliban is active because no one is around to fights them? That... makes me think about our foreign entanglements in a new way for sure.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:37 pm UTC

When the US invades and occupies and few if any foreign powers supply/train opposition, it tends to do pretty well. South Korea, Japan, Bosnia, W Germany. When the US is fighting against foreign proxies but is unable to target the supplier of those proxies, not so well. Russian/Chinese proxies in Vietnam, Pakistani/Saudi/Iranian proxies in Afghanistan, Iranian/Syrian proxies in Lebanon, Saudi/Syrian/Iranian proxies in Iraq, etc.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby elasto » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:52 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:We didn't spend the USSR into bankruptcy. Gorbachev tried to enact market and democratic reforms

Well, let's be clear, countries that print their own money can't actually go bankrupt.

But why was he interested in market reforms? In part it was because the US economy kept outpacing the Soviet one, so if they wanted to 'keep up with the Joneses' they could either keep diverting a larger and larger proportion of their economy towards the military or try to grow the economy in Western fashion. As part of that he introduced various market and social reforms, and that, as you say, sealed his political fate.

Since then China and Putin's Russia worked out a different path: If ordinary people feel like they are getting wealthier at an accelerated rate they'll put up with any amount of repression. Also, until fairly recently both China and Russia also spent relatively little on their militaries in global and historical terms.

The US has gone down the opposite path: Spending enormous amounts on its military and letting ordinary people feel like they are getting poorer and poorer, causing the masses to lash out in unpredictable fashion.

Lessons, as I say, very much not learned.

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Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:12 pm UTC

The US is also a highly developed country, mostly, so extra spending on investment wouldn't produce anywhere near the results that the same spending in Brazil would have. BRICS countries, probably BRINCS now that Nigeria is booming but I always preferred CRIBS, are booming because they started with so little capital. They aren't overtaking the West so much as catching up.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:47 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:The US is also a highly developed country, mostly, so extra spending on investment wouldn't produce anywhere near the results that the same spending in Brazil would have. BRICS countries, probably BRINCS now that Nigeria is booming but I always preferred CRIBS, are booming because they started with so little capital. They aren't overtaking the West so much as catching up.

Brics is a bad acronym, when you look closer there's only China, and none of the other economies mattered.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:05 pm UTC

India would beg to differ. It's not developing as fast as China, but the growth is still much higher than the population growth rate, and India has more billionaires than even the US.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:46 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:India would beg to differ. It's not developing as fast as China, but the growth is still much higher than the population growth rate, and India has more billionaires than even the US.

Ok, let's call that 2. And the justification for the rest that isn't irrational exuberance?

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Chen » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:12 pm UTC

Brazil is only a little behind India in terms of economy. The others are significantly lower down on the list though

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:27 am UTC

Slumdog Millionaire was a movie, starring Indian peoples, about a boy from India that became a millionaire on a TV show. And something-something his true love? I didn't know India had so much rich peoples?
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Soupspoon » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:05 am UTC

Where there's a whole lot of poor customers, there's people who can get rich by servicing them. Even if it's not very much profit per transaction (dependent on philanthropic or gouging tendencies), it's a lot of transactions1. And with a large potential base, there's room for many low-scale entrepreneurs, a lot of mid-scale ones and several high-scale ones all jockeying to do more (likely also enriching others, from top staff to corrupt officials, as they go) and accumulating significant wealth in the process. Maybe sparking a dynasty tbat kick-starts other family members into hyper-entrepreneurship.


(Even in Slumdog Millionaire, that Million has to be a practical amount of prize money, actually available to be shelled out by the production company, and that sort of wealth is available (over time, if not in a single paypacket) to pay TV execs, Bollywood actors, and certainly the people building (and taking sky-high rents from) the posh high-rise real-estate that famously directly abutts the slums quarters (or the slums abutt the posh district, give or take whatever security measures are taken).


India has children scavenging rubbish dumps and a Mars-capable national space-programme (the government also takes "a lot of little payments", when it can). That's the kind of contrast we have on the sub-continent.

1 My theme of the day seems to be "a lot of little things added together". ;)

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby natraj » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:51 pm UTC

i mean, the us has children scavenging rubbish dumps and living on top of raw sewage and also, a mars-capable space program.

also slumdog millionaire is. a movie? i really hope nobody is tryna use it as Representative Of India, it's a pretty love story set in a poverty porn backdrop.

but like india has over a billion people and the sixth largest economy on earth of course some of those billion+ people are going to be rich.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:06 pm UTC

natraj wrote:i mean, the us has children scavenging rubbish dumps and living on top of raw sewage and also, a mars-capable space program.

also slumdog millionaire is. a movie? i really hope nobody is tryna use it as Representative Of India, it's a pretty love story set in a poverty porn backdrop.

but like india has over a billion people and the sixth largest economy on earth of course some of those billion+ people are going to be rich.



1) Citation needed on US children scavenging dumps. I'm sure it happens in some extreme example, but social services does prioritize taking care of children. If the kids aren't getting help because they arent going to social services, that's not something that can really be fixed. The only situation I can think of would be people running away from foster homes, which do have a history of abuse similar to prison, but again, not the fault of social services.
2) People absolutely judge a country by the portrayals in the media. So yes, Slumdog Millionaire is coloring people's views. There was a TED talk about this, the One Single Story, about an African writer who was told by her teacher that her stories weren't African enough because they didn't have enough about poverty and such, because all the teacher knew about Africa was media depictions.

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Postby natraj » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:49 pm UTC

apologies, i should have just said scavenging rubbish. actual dumps are usually pretty well protected, i was mostly just thinking of trash cans and dumpsters etc.

i am aware that media influences people's views? my point is just that it is also enormously inaccurate and people should be aware that their preconception is coloured, not be citing a piece of hollywood fiction as if it is an accurate portrayal of india.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Soupspoon » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:15 pm UTC

natraj wrote:apologies, i should have just said scavenging rubbish. actual dumps are usually pretty well protected, i was mostly just thinking of trash cans and dumpsters etc.
I must pre-apologise, I meant to make it obvious that I was talking about Industrial Scale commercial tip-scavenging. A fairly consistnt sign of 3rd-worldiness, much as the existence of interplanetary rocketry normally would suggest 1st-world, and not even all the 1st-world.

(Also India has a 100% success record on Mars missions. NASA failed more than 20% of the time, the Soviet/Russian failure rate being over 90%! :p)

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Postby Sableagle » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:40 pm UTC

India also has a huge advantage over the UK on satellite launches, which our gov't here seems to be hoping nobody's going to notice ...

(No, really, they're trying to tout Britain as the new low-cost space-launch site.)

... which is that India's going quite a bit faster. Assuming a launch from Sandwich Bay, with open water to the east so it doesn't land on a primary school if it goes wrong, that's 51.27°N. Kanyakumari's 8.09°N. That's 0.99 versus 0.63 just on the cosine thing even before the 6357 to 6378 km range from polar to equatorial "radius" kicks in. 465.09 m/s at the Equator gives about 460.46 m/s at Kanyakumari. Calling it 6369 km at Sandwich Bay, by horribly crude approximation, that's only 25038 km around the Earth "up here," so only 290.59 m/s linear velocity. The Indian launch site thus gets almost 170 m/s of velocity "free." That's probably a significant saving. The dreaded collection of publicly-supplied information says the BFR has:
Mass 4,400,000 kg (9,700,000 lb)
... or 4550000 kg with max LEO payload, which makes those "first" 170 m/s worth 65747537282.73 J or 15.7 t TNT. This page appears to be saying that TNT costs $10.5k/T, to that's $165000 saved just on fuel by using India if you launch with TNT. If you want to work out the amount of real rocket fuel you'd save that way, I suggest this NASA document on High Energy-Density Lquid Rocket Fuel Performance.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Yablo » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:40 pm UTC

Soupspoon wrote:(Also India has a 100% success record on Mars missions. NASA failed more than 20% of the time, the Soviet/Russian failure rate being over 90%! :p)

In NASA's defense, India doesn't have to remember to convert from Imperial to Metric and back. I'm not sure what Russia's excuse is, except maybe Roscosmos still uses old-school Imperial Russian measurements where 1 dyuim = 1 inch and 1 fut = 1 foot, but 1 arshin = 2 1/3 feet and 1 milya = about 4 2/3 miles.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:02 pm UTC

natraj wrote:i mean, the us has children scavenging rubbish dumps and living on top of raw sewage and also, a mars-capable space program.

also slumdog millionaire is. a movie? i really hope nobody is tryna use it as Representative Of India, it's a pretty love story set in a poverty porn backdrop.

but like india has over a billion people and the sixth largest economy on earth of course some of those billion+ people are going to be rich.

Chill out dude no one was using Slumdog Millionaire as a background for real India. It was just an example to help set the moods of my question?
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Postby morriswalters » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:01 pm UTC

Don't feel to bad for the Russians, they've landed 2 probes on Venus, and currently have the only man rated rockets that can fly on a regular basis. On the other hand can India even attempt to launch a Tesla at Mars? :lol:

Having said that India, also has ballistic missile technology that can strike any site in China. Whatever extremes might exist there, they are bright people who are well motivated. Louisville has a fairly large Indian community apparently, I have no idea what they do. I thought we were too backward.

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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:15 pm UTC

Run the IT department at Humana, and provide psychic surgery at cultural festivals?

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Postby Quercus » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:44 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:India also has a huge advantage over the UK on satellite launches, which our gov't here seems to be hoping nobody's going to notice ...

(No, really, they're trying to tout Britain as the new low-cost space-launch site.)


Oh God, it's the whole "let's ban all non-medical non- food psychoactive substances" (congratulations, you've just banned scented candles!) again. This is what happens when you have no-one with even basic science literacy running the show.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Ginger » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:24 pm UTC

My therapist lit said... paraphrase... that, "Cigs' second-hand smokes could harm your future babies so don't smoke anymore." She wanna ban hammer me from cigarettes because... it might harm my future children? I can't Even Have Children of my own lady.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:29 pm UTC

Ginger wrote:My therapist lit said... paraphrase... that, "Cigs' second-hand smokes could harm your future babies so don't smoke anymore." She wanna ban hammer me from cigarettes because... it might harm my future children? I can't Even Have Children of my own lady.

Cigarettes are bad for your long-term health and cost money. But, they also make you lose weight and focus better. Decisions decisions...


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