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Postby drconcon » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:27 am UTC

As I have not really looked into theories surrounding the G-Man and Half-Life so this may have already been suggested but I have a theory that the G-Man works for the combine.

There are a few details that need to be ironed out but for the most part it makes complete sense, here's why:

(Most of these will be stating the obvious but you get my idea)

Spoiler:
-The G-Man follows Gordon Freeman around, watching over him, maybe making sure he's doing the right things for the combine.
-At the end of Half-Life after Gordon kills Nihilanth the G-Man hires Gordon to his "employers." This all plays a role as Nihilanth looks to be an escaped Combine experiment - something the combine would want dead.
- After Gordon is hired he is put into stasis by the G-Man - right before the 7 Hour War, something Gordon could have possibly foiled if he were around.
- Gordon comes back just in time to unknowingly lead the combine to the revolution's leaders.
- The G-Man is seen less and less as the game progresses (also in the episodes) indicating that when Gordon heads into the Citadel he is not following the plans of the Combine.
- After Gordon kills Dr. Breen and causes the Citadel to become unstable, he is put into another stasis by the G-Man so the Combine could presumably come back into power without his interfering.
- The G-Man is obviously not comfortable with human speech.


As I said before some of them need some ironing out.

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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby CorporalClegg » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:45 am UTC

I think he's probably working for some third party that has yet to be explicitly named.
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The whole city 17 uprising thing wouldn't have happened if Gordon hadn't showed up and attacked Nova Prospekt. G-man also mentions things like "I have agreed to abide by certain... restrictions." Makes me think of supernaturals interfering in "the mortal world" or something like that. There's also the fact that the vortigaunts seem to be familiar with him, as they blocked him off from you... so maybe he's some kind of rival of theirs?
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Geekthras » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:56 am UTC

I agree wholeheartedly. Hey a theory just popped into my head
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Although the idea of G-Man = Gordon Freeman is complete bullshit, maybe he is from the future. His employers are the future time travel government? His restrictions are to make sure history works correctly and to preserve his timeline? Eh? EH?


Er wait that's retarded
[spoiler]He probably wouldn't send the guy who was supposed to save the world into a battle he has no chance of surviving if he's trying to preserve the timeline. Unless he uses cloning or something to make a better Gordon Freeman. Haha, what if the time he was in stasis was to make sure that the storyline worked, so either you accept the job or you get killed and they make a better Gordon Freeman who just thinks he's the real one, that they grow in that indeterminate period of time. The more I think about this the more it fits, except for that one thing I mentioned. He's uncomfortable with human speech because a zillion years in the future, it's a dead language? [/url]

Keep in mind that this is a theory and I'm only posting it because you wanted theories.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Taehl » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:54 am UTC

Ok, here's my personal theory...

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I think the Gman represents a second supergalactic force, one at war at the Combine, and it's not doing too well. To this end, the second force sends agents to various Combine slave worlds (like Earth) in form of the native sentient (a human, in this case) to incite rioting. This being a rather guerrilla tactic I see as evidence that the second force can't match the Combine head-on.

Gman's mysterious powers come from the fact that his race has super-advanced technology, just like the Combine (personal teleportation jumps to mind). The fact that he's not human can explain why he doesn't speak English fluently.

That just leaves the Vorts. I believe that in the Citadel explosion, the Gman wanted to whisk Freeman off to stasis again, or mabe to another city. The Vortigaunts, once slaves themselves (to the Nihilanth, the Xen version of Breen) want themselves and humanity to be free of both races, so they use their control of the Vortescence to shield Freeman from Gman's influence (note how Gman in Ep2 can only appear when the Vorts are dedicating their attention to Alyx).

In the end, I don't think Gman really cares about humanity or Earth, he just sees this as a chance to make the Combine suffer as much loss (of resources, military units, and Advisors) as possible. I predict his agenda would be to make the Earth have as protracted a war with the Combine as possible (which could be a reason to want Freeman back in stasis, to prevent a complete overthrow of the Combine), leaving our planet a burned battleground. Whoever won wouldn't matter, just how much the Combine lost here.


If I'm unclear, or if anyone wants more details, feel free to ask.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:50 pm UTC

Something else popped into my head just now.

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After killing Nihilanth, the G-Man says "The border world, Xen, is in our control for the time." After all, the Combine do take over planets, Xen would be no different. Also as CorporalClegg said, the Vorts are well aware of the G-Man, this may be because the Combine took over Xen or because their leader Nihilanth was modified by the Combine (assuming my theory is true of course.)
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Mother Superior » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:41 pm UTC

drconcon wrote:Something else popped into my head just now.

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After killing Nihilanth, the G-Man says "The border world, Xen, is in our control for the time." After all, the Combine do take over planets, Xen would be no different. Also as CorporalClegg said, the Vorts are well aware of the G-Man, this may be because the Combine took over Xen or because their leader Nihilanth was modified by the Combine (assuming my theory is true of course.)

It's not. Xen is not under combine control. It is in fact, a safe haven for species like the Vortigaunts who escaped from the combine. (granted they were then enslaved by Nihilianth but you win some you lose some)
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:10 am UTC

It's not. Xen is not under combine control. It is in fact, a safe haven for species like the Vortigaunts who escaped from the combine. (granted they were then enslaved by Nihilianth but you win some you lose some)


I know that it was a safe haven at first but who knows what happened to it after the first Half-Life? (Besides that fact that it's in the G-Man's "employers" control...)
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Mother Superior » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:03 pm UTC

drconcon wrote:
It's not. Xen is not under combine control. It is in fact, a safe haven for species like the Vortigaunts who escaped from the combine. (granted they were then enslaved by Nihilianth but you win some you lose some)


I know that it was a safe haven at first but who knows what happened to it after the first Half-Life? (Besides that fact that it's in the G-Man's "employers" control...)


Well see the thing is, Xen is a place you go to when you go to teleport from one place to another in the same universe, described as a slingshot effect or some such in HL2. The combine don't have local teleportation technology, which is largely the only reason humanity is still around, they want it from us. They themselves can only tunnel into another universe and then rely on local transportation, helicopters, cars, gunships etc. So until they manage to get their hands on xen-based teleportation, Xen is still out of combine reach.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:35 pm UTC

The combine don't have local teleportation technology, which is largely the only reason humanity is still around, they want it from us. They themselves can only tunnel into another universe and then rely on local transportation, helicopters, cars, gunships etc. So until they manage to get their hands on xen-based teleportation, Xen is still out of combine reach.


Spoiler:
I know that the Combine don't have local teleportation, what I'm saying is that Gordon Freeman captured Xen for the G-Man's employers (Who I believe is the Combine,) unknowingly. This is proven when the G-Man says, at the end of Half-Life 1, "The border world - Xen - is in our control, for the time, thanks to you..." So if what I'm saying is true, the Combine wouldn't need local teleportation to get to Xen as Gordon did their work on Xen for them.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Mother Superior » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:58 pm UTC

Man... if the combine are the g-man's employers they must be pretty disappointed with the direction he's taking. He's pretty much caused them to lose Earth and get the shit kicked out of them.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:48 pm UTC

Haha, yes. Keep in mind though it is just a theory :P
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Stucky101 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:21 am UTC

My theory of the Gman has always been this.

I believe he's from a third party group we have yet to discover, and Gordan Freeman is nothing but a tool that's being used to manipulate the past so this third party group can achieve what ever goal it is they're trying to achieve.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Amnesiasoft » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:28 am UTC

G-Man is Robocop. Wait, no, I just stole that from the Steam forums.

Anyway, I'll stick with my theory based on a comment in the source SDK that G-Man is the misunderstood servant of the people. Which people, I'm not sure :P
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby CorporalClegg » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:55 am UTC

Ahhh, I just remembered. When G-man said "Xen is now under our control" it showed human tanks lying around, as well as human soldiers, clearly in Xen. Also, at one point in HL2, you could see G-Man talking to Colonel Cubbage (remember him?) one of the human resistance fighters. So perhaps he has some connection to the resistance?
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:38 am UTC

It should be noted that Ep2 strongly implies Gman deliberately set off the Black Mesa incident.

I think of him as like Q from Star Trek--note how he always appeals to a higher power such as "my employers". This implies that he has a job to accomplish and he has "hired" you for it. This job is obviously not to the Combine's benefit. If he had intended for you to help the Combine, things would be different. For example, notice that most of the old Black Mesa people are in the same place--City 17 and the surrounding locales. Notice that you've got messiah status among the rebels. All of this implies either crazy luck or some good engineering, and I don't think Valve believes in luck. So he has a purpose. This purpose involves
-Bringing the Combine to Earth
-Building a resistance force capable of opposing them given the right circumstances
-Putting a torch the gunpowder, in the form of Gordon Freeman.

But to what end? If his only concern was the defeat of the Combine, he would have left you on Earth after HL2 and let you mop up like you did in Ep1 and Ep2.

My theory is that he (or his employers) are at war with the Combine. The worst thing that could happen for them would be for the Combine to get the local-teleportation technology humans had, and so the Gman had Gordon...solve...that problem by eliminating Nova Prospekt, and finishing off the human scientist the Combine had (Breen) for good measure. At that point, he probably intended to use Gordon on other planets to use guerrilla tactics elsewhere. The Vorts realized that they would be left behind by this plan, and so they stopped him. Now they intend to have Gordon finish what the Gman started--the liberation of Earth (and, knowing how well humans love a good war, probably some bad times for the Combine). Or something. I said this was my theory, but I kind of made it up while typing.

But it still makes me wonder why he'd set off a resonance cascade in the first place. Maybe he somehow knew that by the time humans got around to actually setting off their own, circumstances would have changed? Maybe all he wants is to get the humans on his side, thus giving the HL series a nice "perseverance of human spirit" theme. He'd force the cascade to jump-start human civilization and therefore bring in a numerous, historically violent, and intelligent species into the fold of those opposing the Combine. He would have taken Gordon, then, so that he could give him back to the human resistance much later--giving him demigod status among the rebels.

Maybe, then, all the Vorts did was push up the timescale.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Torvaun » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:15 am UTC

Spoiler:
He also provided the impetus to get Eli to cave on the whole Borealis thing. He wants Gordan and Alyx to go find it. Most likely, this is due to portal tech. Without knowing what the time difference is between the events of Portal and the events of Episode Two, there's a chance the the Portal gun has been further adapted. One way portals would be the easiest way to further weaponize them, and while the Borealis vanished, taking some of the dry dock with it, a two-way portal would have bombarded Aperture Science with a fair amount of ice and water, something which isn't shown to have happened in Portal. On the other hand, Portal didn't really allow you to go to any places that might have held research vessels at any point, so it certainly might have happened.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:52 pm UTC

Ha ha, I can't give my thoughts on those as I haven't played Ep2 yet :P
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:59 pm UTC

drconcon wrote:Ha ha, I can't give my thoughts on those as I haven't played Ep2 yet :P


Go play it, right now. It's better than Ep1 by miles, and the final fight is one of the most epic things ever done in Half-Life. Plus, it comes with portal, which is like powdered win printed on a DVD, and TF2, which is also great.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Felgraf » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:56 am UTC

Well, I have to wonder if the G-Man is in some way linked to Aperture. It could explain his teleporation abilities.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:05 am UTC

Felgraf wrote:Well, I have to wonder if the G-Man is in some way linked to Aperture. It could explain his teleporation abilities.


I hope we don't get something f---ed up enough to be, say, Gman = GLaDOS, or GLaDOS somehow being the Gman's employer...

But Aperture doesn't display anything like the Gman's skill. When Aperture can freeze time, talk to me.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Amnesiasoft » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:30 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:I hope we don't get something f---ed up enough to be, say, Gman = GLaDOS, or GLaDOS somehow being the Gman's employer...

Does the theory that GLaDOS is the G-Lady count? Because I recall someone on the Steam forum guessing that. from G, La, D.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:33 am UTC

Does the theory that GLaDOS is the G-Lady count? Because I recall someone on the Steam forum guessing that. from G, La, D.


Ha ha, that would be awesome. I want to see their cyborg children :)
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby cakemaster » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:29 pm UTC

nobody seems to notice that the two half life games were both incredibly different. perhaps the storyline is being made up as it goes along? seems likely to me, since in the first game gman was generally protrayed as working for the government (he is, afterall, called g(overnment)man and it is quite obvious thats what the name was intended to be after the first one) and now in hl2 he makes less appearances and there isnt a government presented that he could be working for, since the combine are in control. I think he didn't fit, so they mostly did away with him, but he is the segway from storyline to storyline (im expecting hl3 to have a completely new storyline) by putting gordon in the train car, so he cant just go away. Also, things that are made up as they go tend to lead to things like this thread when discussed before they have been finished.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Mother Superior » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:13 pm UTC

Well he's hardly a normal government official in Half-life 1. For one, he still has the same weird personal teleporter-technology as in HL2, he can move freely without being attacked by marines and xen wild-life, a rare feat. While VALVe are obviously planning things out alot more in advance now than before, and half-life's story wasn't really that thought out in 1998, I don't think they ever meant for the g-man to be something as simple as a government official. His name isn't g-man btw, that's just the short name for his model, which is obviously designed to look like a "company man".
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:08 pm UTC

I agree with Mother Superior, the story is far more thought out now than it was in 1998. I believe this is because the technology now permits a more vast, complex story than before. Even so, I still think that Half-Life 1's story goes along very well with Half-Life 2. If you play through both games (one right after another) you will see how the events in HL1 connect with HL2
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For example, the things Nihilanth says to Gordon while on Xen. Also, I said earlier, just how Nihilanth looks resembles some of the Combines creations


PS. The episodes are taking the place of Half-Life 3.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Geekthras » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:12 am UTC

BTW people put spoilers in tags. I've played hl2, but not 1, 2-1, or 2-2. But from what I know, the first and second are wildly different from each other. I've seen the g-man a few times so far in HL2:

Spoiler:
Beginning (duh)
On a screen in one of the stations... I think the one where you get the gun on the airship
On the red barn station where they got shelled
On the station with the dam right after the chopper battle
End (duh again)
I wasn't really paying attention for him until just now when I was replaying it.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:05 pm UTC

Yeah, the G-Man is much harder to see in the second Half-Life. In the first one it's quite blatant.
Also, there actually is not a lot of difference between the first and second besides...

Spoiler:
It takes place much farther in the future so the story has developed without Gordon.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:35 pm UTC

What Mother said. Also, I didn't realize Government Officials teleported scientists on to subway cars flying in space to present them with "Do what I say or die a horrible death" options. Neat. I wanna be a Gov'ment Goon when I grow up!

Anyway.. yeah, G-Man working for any of the factions revealed as of now would be too simple. Besides.. I've been to Valve and read their notes. He works for thelJAKLJHFG&@#&@&*!!!@@########NOCARRIER
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:55 pm UTC

drconcon wrote:Yeah, the G-Man is much harder to see in the second Half-Life. In the first one it's quite blatant.


It's still not that difficult in HL2. Now, he isn't in HL2:Ep1 at all (for plot purposes I would surmise) but he is in Ep2 (when you first see the bridge holding your car, he is walking across it).

I think the difficulty of seeing Gman in HL2 is just Valve deciding to be more subtle about it. I remember in HL1, there was a bit where you walk into a portal thing and the Gman is standing right in front of you, walking away into his own portal. (Incidentally, I hadn't seen him until then. Oops. I noticed him more in HL2, especially Water Hazard where he has two appearances iirc.)
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Mother Superior » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:40 pm UTC

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drconcon wrote:Yeah, the G-Man is much harder to see in the second Half-Life. In the first one it's quite blatant.


It's still not that difficult in HL2. Now, he isn't in HL2:Ep1 at all (for plot purposes I would surmise) but he is in Ep2 (when you first see the bridge holding your car, he is walking across it).

I think the difficulty of seeing Gman in HL2 is just Valve deciding to be more subtle about it. I remember in HL1, there was a bit where you walk into a portal thing and the Gman is standing right in front of you, walking away into his own portal. (Incidentally, I hadn't seen him until then. Oops. I noticed him more in HL2, especially Water Hazard where he has two appearances iirc.)


Also, in fairness, HL1 took place in close quarter room-to-room fighting. Not so many huge open vistas to hide the g-man in.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby drconcon » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:44 pm UTC

Also, in fairness, HL1 took place in close quarter room-to-room fighting. Not so many huge open vistas to hide the g-man in.


Yeah thats a pretty good point actually... :P
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Geekthras » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:16 am UTC

I see him a lot more in HL2, definitely. I barely played HL though... 2 is sweeeet. Hard to imagine a speedrun for it that takes less than a few hours. I saw the g-man on a couple screens also...
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby EvanED » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:43 am UTC

Geekthras wrote:I see him a lot more in HL2, definitely. I barely played HL though... 2 is sweeeet. Hard to imagine a speedrun for it that takes less than a few hours.

Cheating very heavily (particularly noclip to bypass entire areas almost instantly), I've seen it done in something like 45 minutes. A lot of that were the almost-cut-scenes, especially at the transporter and Black Mesa East.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Geekthras » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:54 am UTC

Noclip = fail for speedruns.
Then it's just stupid.


I want to see one that's done like Half-Hour Half-Life was.
Wait. With a SPOON?!
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Tommy2995 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:36 pm UTC

GMan is the Master Chief!!!
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby heavymeds » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:29 am UTC

my personal theory is that"
Spoiler:
G-man works of a sort of inter-dimensional Temp agency, hiring out their "employees" to the highest bidder, and Gorden was "Hired" by people who want to see the combine lose. what makes me think this is what he says at the end of HL2, when he stopped time, and before the Vorts interfere, that he has "other offers" for Gorden's service, and what Breen says, about Gorden's contract being open to the highest bidder, when he has everyone in his office.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby psion » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:57 am UTC

EvanED wrote:Cheating very heavily (particularly noclip to bypass entire areas almost instantly), I've seen it done in something like 45 minutes. A lot of that were the almost-cut-scenes, especially at the transporter and Black Mesa East.

That's pretty slow considering it's been done without cheating in 1:36:57. Might as well just hit "map credits" in the console for a millisecond speedrun.

Setting aside the idea that the story isn't entirely fleshed out yet (which I think is most likely), there's the theory that the resonance cascade was partially made (by the Gman) to find, or at least create, a warrior from Earth. It seemed several others were deemed worthy of assistance, as seen in Blueshift and Opposing Force. An amusing fact is that at one point you're faced with a locked door that thwarts your progress, and the Gman very bluntly unlocks it for you. There's also the various death screens, such as the one in Xen: "Evaluation terminated: Subject attempted to create a temporal paradox."
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Threadbreaker » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:31 am UTC

Does anyone know how human beings became able to use portal technology? It is my own personal belief that the G-Man is actually the first contact with ETs, perhaps- an important member of a non-discussed super-advanced race brought down by the Combine, or Xen. He is known to have given the portal tech to black mesa in the beginning, and overseeing the project along with at least visiting and
speaking to all of the most important people in the project (the scientists and the people responsible for cleaning up the mess if it gets out of hand.) When it comes to the main character's survival, it seems to me that he intentionally helps the player out in every instance that he can, either by watching and making sure at certain intervals that you are okay, and by helping you out if not (I think he just SEEMS creepy because he isn't human) . However, his own survival is paramount to him, so he works behind the scenes, staying out of harm's way. Once black mesa was botched (probably because of inconsistencies in the prototype tech made by the humans who wanted to use the crystal that the gman supplies you), he tries to rearm the bomb that will destroy black mesa, thereby reducing the number of alien portals that will open up, and attempt to save the primitive human race from war with an entire multiverse full of hostile aliens. I'm thinking that XEN was the opposing race of the Gmen, or at least his employers hence the "Xen is now under our control" comment.

In short, Gman is first contact one, an ambassador from a super-advanced alien race, probably from another dimension, whom deemed human beings worthy to wield more advanced technology because they are significantly less barbaric or cruel than many other races in the multiverse. Gman was sent as an overseer to the inaugural event, to make sure everything went according to plan. when black mesa failed, and the xen invasion begun, he had to work as swiftly as possible to ensure that this event did not destroy the human race which his employers, the watchers, sensed great potential in. Because of the portal storm, the combine took a foothold on the planet, then sent through a fleet, and because of their superior advanced technology, took over the planet quite quickly. The gman, sensing great potential in gordon, wished to make him a valuable knight on the chessboard for defeating perhaps an enemy of the gman's race (which i will henceforth refer to as "the watchers"), the combine. Ugh i would type more but you get the general idea. Im so sleepy!

He is obviously either alien or some kind of advanced android due to being unable to speak properly. I also do not believe that he is sane, or at least cannot think in the same way that humans do.
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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Tharwen » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:24 am UTC

Amnesiasoft wrote:
Sir_Elderberry wrote:I hope we don't get something f---ed up enough to be, say, Gman = GLaDOS, or GLaDOS somehow being the Gman's employer...

Does the theory that GLaDOS is the G-Lady count? Because I recall someone on the Steam forum guessing that. from G, La, D.


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Re: G-Man Theories

Postby Numzane » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:05 pm UTC

It is possible to come up with a name that fits a preconceived acronym rather than deriving the acronym from the name.
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