I would like to illustrate how little MasterOfAll actually contributed so far and I will do this in a completely 'new' and 'original' manner. What I'm looking for is any scum-hunting, opinions on other players, questions to others that would move the game forward and similar things.
MasterofAll wrote:Yes, many years ago. But I also replaced into the Newbie New Year game way back at the beginning of 2018, and lurked my way to a scum win by coasting on the 'town slip' of the player I replaced.
Answer to question, reasonable in itself, understandably not useful for our purposes.
MasterofAll wrote:Apologies in advance if I become demotivated and end up lurking too much in this game; hopefully if that does happen, there will be someone left on the replacement list.
Is aware of own irl issues that might cause problems for us and notifies us in advance. Appreciated, again off-topic and understandably provides no info.
MasterofAll wrote:But, there is no reason to vote for me in this game, as I am a mere Vanilla townie (thanks, secret santa; but at least I smell good; who doesn't like the smell of Vanilla?).
Gambit or just joke, if the first we expect him to use it later for some reads, if the second then contains nothing useful.
MasterofAll wrote:Welcome to the game, SuicideJunkie. Here, I got you something nice . . .
Joke vote, provides no info.
MasterofAll wrote:@Sabrar: I'll get back to you later on the Vanilla claim.
Delaying answer, would make more sense if it was a gambit to gather opinions. In itself contains no info.
MasterofAll wrote:By the way, I *do* really like the smell of vanilla. It might be my favorite scent overall.
Off-topic, no info.
MasterofAll wrote:@SuicideJunkie: Don't worry about my vote on you. I just didn't want you to feel left out of the random voting stage. But, as a new player, you should know that it is exceedingly unlikely that you will be lynched here on D1. That doesn't mean your D1 posts won't be scrutinized and possibly used to lynch you on later days, but just don't worry about being lynched this first day and have fun with the game.
Helpful advice to a newbie to make them more welcome and feel less stressed, but doesn't move the actual game forward outside of that.
MasterofAll wrote:@Everyone who is familiar with the mods: How do you think they went about setting up the game? Fixing up our role submissions a bit, deciding on town-scum-indy balance, then just randomly assigning each role and alignment? Or would they be more likely to manually select things?
Not that I think that setup speculation serves much purpose on D1, but I am curious about the process our mods were likely to have used, as that information might be useful mid and late game.
This information might be useful to 'break' the game later on, though I don't think we have any successful example from the past (Shakespeare III
could have been one). However as he also mentions this is not useful on D1.
MasterofAll wrote:@LaserGuy: I am at least willing to consider your reasoning for a D1 mass claim. So, what are you thinking everyone should claim (Rolename and ability?) and why do that here on D1?
'Willing to consider' is a safe pov, asking for clarification is good (if a bit obvious).
MasterofAll wrote:Regarding claiming abilities, I don't think it is the worst idea, but my opinion is that it would be better to wait for later in the game for that. I don't like the idea of 'trying to break the game' as that seems a lot less fun than playing the game. And while scum know up to 3 of the roles of non-scum, it might be only 2 or even 1 or hilariously 0. And then they still have to try to figure out which of us has *that* role they submitted in order to target us, and I really doubt that the flavor is going to help them with that (much more likely the things we say would).
Oh. Now he says he doesn't like breaking the game. That's a bit weird. What use would then the previous info be? At least we know his stance on immediate claims, still nothing about any of the other players.
MasterofAll wrote:Although the point about last year's scum!bessie having strongest powers and thus would have stood out for not being NK'd is interesting, I think there is a better chance that the strongest powers ended up with town (since we outnumber them) and then the mass claim just helps scum to identify targets. This, of course, assumes that we could even agree on what abilities scum would be most scared of, which isn't a discussion I would expect us to ever have until endgame because who wants to help scum not only by knowing all the abilities, but also the ramifications of how they interact and thus who is most dangerous. tl;dr: I still think scum benefits more than town from an early mass claim.
More theoretical discussion with some good conclusions. But this won't help catch scum.
MasterofAll wrote:But, as a way to give people something to talk about, congrats to LaserGuy on bringing up a mass roleclaim and then even making town/scum reads from it.
Praise for LaserGuy, guess this could be interpreted as a townie-read.
MasterofAll wrote:Regarding my vanilla claim, of course it's a fake claim. I did not do it for any particular purpose, but rather, I just thought it would be amusing to claim to be vanilla when we clearly all got some sort of ability gifted to us, because, you know, that's how Secret Santa works.
Turns out it was a joke. How disappointing.
MasterofAll wrote:Still, maybe others will be able to find something useful in the responses to my claim, so I wasn't quite ready to retract my claim earlier. But, I wouldn't want it to be a distraction, so . . . yeah, it was a big, fat lie.
Oh. So others can use it as a way to scum-hunt but he's not interested of doing it himself. So not providing any info.
MasterofAll wrote:In fact, my role is amazing. I am super excited to make use of these interesting and incredibly powerful abilities, and scum should definitely leave me alone at night because I would be very sad if I got knocked out of this game early.
Can be expected to be a similar joke, nothing relevant to our purposes.
MasterofAll wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that wam's reasoning for voting me is laughably bad?
Doesn't like being attacked, asks for support. Expresses dislike of wam.
MasterofAll wrote:Yes, I noticed when wam voted for me in his 1st post of the day. And I immediately shrugged it off as insignificant due to the reasoning being "only one not to write confirm." So, yeah, I didn't even bother to acknowledge it.
Provides reasonable explanation for not taking wam seriously.
MasterofAll wrote:So I find it rather amusing that his reason for voting for me is that I didn't respond at all to his 'made up confirmation post analysis'.
Reiterates point, no new info.
MasterofAll wrote:Now, if there is an actual issue that someone brought up and I haven't responded to, please let me know and I will be happy to weigh in.
Passive continuation, "ask me if there's anything but I'm not about to give more".
MasterofAll wrote:Right now, I'd be fine with a wam lynch, actually, so
Consolidates dislike of wam.
What have we learned from all this? MasterOfAll gave a townie-point to LaserGuy and would be happy with a wam-lynch. He would be fine with claiming abilities later. That's it. He has no opinion on 9 players, hasn't asked them anything or even tried to analyze their content.
I would call this the definition of active lurking.