WARNING: Offensive to "Future Proofers"

[innoby...]

Ok first off we'll compare prices.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115026
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 Kentsfield 3.0GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
$980

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115027
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
$540

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115037
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
$245

now for some reviews.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=714&p=3

Well that was the only one that I found that pits a quad vs the e8400.

As you can see the number crunching sections lean heavily towards the quadcore, but in gaming though there IS a performance gain it's not too incredibly much.

I would do more research into this, but I'm getting bored of it...

But to close what you can buy with the price differences.

Core 2 Extreme vs e8400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130319
EVGA 512-P3-N802-AR GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x2
(~$520)

OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 x2 (yes that's 4gigs of fucking ram)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820227181
(~$212)

And you could still go buy a bigmac with whats left

Q6700 vs e8400 $295 difference

You could buy one 8800GT as referenced above for ~$260

Or you could get 4gigs of ram, as mentioned above.

Now as far as saying "future proof future proof future proof buy the damn quad core" I think 4gigs of ram and 2 8800GT's in an SLI would pretty much just blow what ever friggan benefit you got from buying a quadcore out of the damn water.

Save your fucking money go with a dual core and spend it on some REAL PERFORMANCE. Upgrade later when the price drops because Octal core CPU's have come out. (Hyperbole, but the point is real)

There, now SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT QUAD CORES.

[akashra]

...I think 4gigs of ram and 2 8800GT's in an SLI would pretty much just blow what ever friggan benefit you got from buying a quadcore out of the damn water.

Save your fucking money go with a dual core and spend it on some REAL PERFORMANCE. Upgrade later when the price drops because Octal core CPU's have come out. (Hyperbole, but the point is real)

As a person who's a software developer, and plays games 0% of the time on this system, I'm going to have to disagree with you. The ability to recompile my entire project in 30 seconds rather than 4 minutes greatly outweighs the benefits of SLI 8800GTs, or, hell, even an 8300.

Everyone has different requirements.

[b.i.o]

Now as far as saying "future proof future proof future proof buy the damn quad core" I think 4gigs of ram and 2 8800GT's in an SLI would pretty much just blow what ever friggan benefit you got from buying a quadcore out of the damn water.

If you spend your time exclusively gaming, then yes, probably. However, I think you'll find that the majority of the people who hang around the hardware forum do things with their computers other than (or in addition to) gaming. I do a fair amount of fractal rendering and video encoding, and all of that scales linearly with the number of cores I'm using.

Also, why are you using the Q6700 as a comparison? The Q6600 is a much better value considering how well it overclocks, and is only around $276, putting a bit of a damper on your price difference...

... because Octal core CPU's ... Hyperbole ...

Not really.

There, now SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT QUAD CORES.

...
Let me offer you a piece of advice and say that telling people to shut the fuck up when you've been a member of the forum for a few days and they've been members for a few months or years is not a good idea if you actually intend to stay on the forum.

[scowdich]

Is it just me, or does he look a bit...familiar?

[b.i.o]

Now that you mention it...he does...

[Larson]

There, now SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT QUAD CORES.

Easy killer! There are enough opinions around here for everyone.

Last time I checked, there's more to performance than gaming alone. You don't need me to tell you that there are NUMEROUS applications and things aside from gaming that will utilize quad core CPUs to their full potential.

And.....welcome to the forums.

[innoby...]

I wrote this because I was sick of people who popped into threads about gaming pc's saying "future proof with quad core" then disappear. For GAMING dual core is better and it will still be better up until the middle of next year (by my best guestimate of when games will catch up) When someone says "Gaming PC" and then "future proof" is a post after that, that's not what gaming's pc's are FOR. Gaming PC's are built to perform RIGHT NOW with the ability to upgrade later.

[b.i.o]

When someone says "Gaming PC" and then "future proof" is a post after that, that's not what gaming's pc's are FOR. Gaming PC's are built to perform RIGHT NOW with the ability to upgrade later.

There is no appreciable performance difference between a 2.6 and a 3.0 GHz processor for gaming right now--you're not going to lose much if any performance by buying a 2.6GHz quad core over a 3.0GHz dual core. However, 6 months to a year down the line if even more games become multithreaded and start utilizing the CPU more there very well might be a performance difference, and the quad core is going to win out. You are sacrificing virtually nothing in performance now for the chance to not have to upgrade later. And contrary to your beliefs, not everyone building a PC for gaming replaces it every 6 months. Some of us keep our computers for several years, and that applies to most of the people here, I think, so future proofing at very little extra cost is certainly something that should be considered long and hard.

[innoby...]

The computer I'm running now is a cobbled together collection of random shit I bought as I upgraded over time. Unfortunately for your position there are more people out there willing to UPGRADE than spend a shitton of money to buy something later. I personally plan on upgrading to a quad eventually (I am getting my E8400 which I reasearched the dickens out of before I bought it, and a FUTURE PROOFED MOTHERBOARD here in the next few days) This system NEW system is upgradable for at least a year or more. It's compatable with Quad core CPU's but the performance benefit to the cost was not large enough that I NEEDED a quad. What I've got on the way now will play EVERY GAME OUT THERE AT GOOD FPS RIGHT NOW, and it will play games that will be coming out SOON with good FPS. StarCraft 2 etc etc.

So I am future proofed I just didn't spend as much money as those with quad core gaming rigs did, I came out ahead.

[tinyterror]

This thread reeks of basements and teenage angst.

Why does anyone care about what hardware other people are buying? Seriously, grow up. Declaring that someone is an idiot because they chose an architecture or core count that does not fit with your idea of an "L337 G4M1NG R1G" isn't scoring you any points.

Trust me, you wouldn't be so angry at life if you went outside and got some fresh air. A bit of exercise might also help you stave off that heart attack you are working so hard to have over someone you don't even know buying CPU X over CPU Y.

Do yourself a favor and close this thread before you get banned for being a monumental tool.

[Larson]

There, now SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT QUAD CORES.

Truth.

Reasonable words.

Angry angry words.

Locked. It's one thing to have an informed debate, but this thread is going nowhere but down.