0416: "Zealous Autoconfig"

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:24 am UTC

luketheduke wrote:Yeah, you need a damn good raid setup to get a whole school with 5 field agents.

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If I had an Internet spare, you would've won it for that.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Dobblesworth » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:30 am UTC

I'm currently imagining Randall Munroe and/or Black Hat Man acting as 21st century highwaymen, holding you at gunpoint with the phrase:
"Your Wi-fi password or your life?"

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby jamesh » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:38 am UTC

pgn674 wrote:Well, by pressing CTRL-C and sending SIGINT, he's interrupting the WIFI Autoconfig process. I expect it will kill the AI field agents it had forked earlier. Since these agents had previously inherited the children, they're now the children's parents. Since the parents are being quickly killed, the children now become zombies.

That's what happens to the children.


If the children's parents are killed, won't they become the property of init? Effectively wards of the state.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:52 am UTC

Anarchy965 wrote:I'm posting from my new Hardy Heron installation. I have yet to find this option. :D
Did you check multiverse? Let me know if you find it.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby ++$_ » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:17 am UTC

Best XKCD in a long, long time. I like how the guy is just calmly pressing Ctrl-C in exactly the same way one does when a program hangs and you're irritated.

But really, he shouldn't have invoked it with the --enable-extreme-measures switch.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Steroid » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:04 am UTC

And this is why I leave my home network open.

Well, this and the fact that I'm a forward-thinking type who believes that anyone driving by (despite the fact that I live in a semi-gated community) ought to have internet access.

Well, that and that fact that if I get a new WiFi device, I'm lazy and want it to connect ASAP without a password.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby tylerni7 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:13 am UTC

I was a bit worried when this first happened to me, but now I just let it run. It works much better than aircrack for WAP passwords and frankly, I'm not too fond of my neighbors children. :D

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby suso » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:13 am UTC

caadoptees wrote:Been RSS'ing your comics for a while now. However, I don't always understand them all, but I try. The reason that this caught my eye is that Lenhart is my mother's maiden name. Did you have a reason (that you can share) for this name?


What? I hope you didn't really just announce your mother's maiden name (potentially something used as a password recovery secret) to the internet.

I think its a dumb piece of information to use for that anyways.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby PatrickRsGhost » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:53 am UTC

fatduck wrote:"Interesting game. The only way to win is not to think about it."


Fix'd.

Shit.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby PockyBum522 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:29 pm UTC

Agreed, ctrl-c ctrl-c feels so familiar. Twice is pure genius. Also, you don't have to maintain the field agents, Canonical Ltd keeps them ready for you.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby Calibwam » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:34 pm UTC

Well, coulnd't we have a pool of field agents here at xkcd? If someone needs a WEP, a gang of fellow xkcder's could take their children.

Or maybe we can do it in Python?

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wep = raw_input("Was it an open network (j/n)? ")
if wep != j:
     import field_agents
     obduct kids
     print "Parents contacted for retracting WEP"
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby Lenary » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:41 pm UTC

oh man, i so want something that does this, only abducts randomers rather than ppl connected to the connection, meaning that you would get the password through the confusion of the ppl in the vivinity seeing a script abduct a person...

oh, and isn't this what the CIA / FBI / NSA do? i imagine it's someone who nicked a computer of theirs, or a new intern...

ah well, it'd all be fun...
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby fatduck » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:44 pm UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:
fatduck wrote:"Interesting game. The only way to win is not to think about it."


Fix'd.

Shit.


I was actually quoting WarGames.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby umbrae » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:45 pm UTC

Zealous... but not OVER zealous.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby pyroman » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:15 pm UTC

haha quite the amusing comic. there have been times when i wish my computer could do that. but the on thing that confused me was that he was pressing ctrl + C. i would have expected ctrl+ break. now i am a bit a of a linux newb so if anyone could explain it to me it would be greatly appreciated. thanks!

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby e946 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:20 pm UTC

Steroid wrote:And this is why I leave my home network open.

Well, this and the fact that I'm a forward-thinking type who believes that anyone driving by (despite the fact that I live in a semi-gated community) ought to have internet access.

Well, that and that fact that if I get a new WiFi device, I'm lazy and want it to connect ASAP without a password.


Except for when someone gets on your connection and promptly sstarts downloading all sorts of illegal things, then leaves, leaving you stuck with the blame.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby uber_user » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:25 pm UTC

Another XKCD classic, love this one!

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby DSDM » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:36 pm UTC

That's kinda like how Windows does it, only with them the field agent comes to your house and kicks you in the nuts. Fortunately this is Microsoft we're talking about, so I'm still waiting for it and when it finally does get here it probably won't work very well anyway.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Gadren » Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:00 pm UTC

pyroman wrote:haha quite the amusing comic. there have been times when i wish my computer could do that. but the on thing that confused me was that he was pressing ctrl + C. i would have expected ctrl+ break. now i am a bit a of a linux newb so if anyone could explain it to me it would be greatly appreciated. thanks!


When in the Unix/Linux terminal, Ctrl+C kills the current process.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby justAnotherProphet » Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:16 pm UTC

Anarchy965 wrote:I'm posting from my new Hardy Heron installation. I have yet to find this option. :D


You're assuming that it's an option. This seems more like the standard behaviour, the way it just launches in, and the character sits there perplexed at his computer trying to crack the Lenhart family's wireless before taking measures into its own hands.

On the bright side, though, at least now we know Hardy Heron won't give up easily when trying to procure wireless service!

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby ThatGuyCalledPete » Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:33 pm UTC

Heh - this comic reminded my of how I felt when I was playing around with a fresh install of BackTrack...

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Celtic Minstrel » Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:42 pm UTC

This Is Funny.


That computer is just being a little too helpful, no?

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby asad137 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:44 pm UTC

suso wrote:What? I hope you didn't really just announce your mother's maiden name (potentially something used as a password recovery secret) to the internet.


Woo, now we know some random person's mother's maiden name -- when we don't even know said random person's ACTUAL name. Big deal.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Cynical Jawa » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:03 pm UTC

Actually, wicrawl does pretty much that. Fire it up, and it'll find and crack any access points it can get its hands on. Aircrack works better though. Yes, I too own a copy of BackTrack for "testing" purposes :P

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Steroid » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:23 pm UTC

e946 wrote:Except for when someone gets on your connection and promptly sstarts downloading all sorts of illegal things, then leaves, leaving you stuck with the blame.


You mean over and above all the illegal things I'm downloading? :D

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Little Richie » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:31 pm UTC

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Kni7es » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:37 pm UTC

I'm not sure what I need more now, a WiFi decryptor or open-source field agents. I wonder if I copied the program and used it on multiple computers if it would then create a small army of field agents... I could take over.... CANADA!

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Ondore » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:01 pm UTC

And to think, I thought I was secure for using WPA. Never thought about brute force attacks.

Though it helps I have no children. What does the program do then?

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Ronfar » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:09 pm UTC

Good old rubber-hose cryptanalysis. Works every time.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Crane » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:45 pm UTC

This is the best XKCD in ages. It really, really is.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby segmentation fault » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:48 pm UTC

field agents eh? so THATS what the geek squad is for...
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby StClair » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:49 pm UTC

fatduck wrote:
PatrickRsGhost wrote:
fatduck wrote:"Interesting game. The only way to win is not to think about it."


Fix'd.

Shit.


I was actually quoting WarGames.

Which predates that particular kewl-but-actually-moronic geekly alternative to masturbation by about fifteen bloody years, so there.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:15 pm UTC

fatduck wrote:
PatrickRsGhost wrote:
fatduck wrote:"Interesting game. The only way to win is not to think about it."


Fix'd.

Shit.


I was actually quoting WarGames.


You know how WarGames is supposed to be this lesson in how war isn't the answer and nobody should fight wars?

When I was a kid, I just assumed that it was a commentary about how stupid tic tac toe was.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby hagger » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:45 pm UTC

Kni7es wrote:I'm not sure what I need more now, a WiFi decryptor or open-source field agents. I wonder if I copied the program and used it on multiple computers if it would then create a small army of field agents... I could take over.... CANADA!


Windows is finally doomed... who can resist the power of the opensource field agents?

You know, a feature like this is probably the only thing that would satisfy all those complainers on the Ubuntu threads. Shame about all those laws against fun stuff like kidnapping. Stupid lawyers.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby lazarus89 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:06 pm UTC

The user's frantic SIGINT-ing is what made this one work.

First time in a while that I've laughed at an XKCD out loud...
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby curious and questioning » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:14 pm UTC

I was kind of interested in maybe installing ubuntu someday before this comic. Now, I'm wondering what I can clear off my hard drive/if I can fit a useful install in a gigabyte or less, as soon as possible.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Namaps » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:45 pm UTC

Why is his phone ringing in the third panel. He's not Mr. Lenhart, is he?
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby R.K. » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:55 pm UTC

Namaps wrote:Why is his phone ringing in the third panel. He's not Mr. Lenhart, is he?


autoconfig connected via the phone. Maybe it's set to vibrate when controlled by the Bluetooth connection.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby pyroman » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:08 pm UTC

Gadren wrote:
pyroman wrote:haha quite the amusing comic. there have been times when i wish my computer could do that. but the on thing that confused me was that he was pressing ctrl + C. i would have expected ctrl+ break. now i am a bit a of a linux newb so if anyone could explain it to me it would be greatly appreciated. thanks!


When in the Unix/Linux terminal, Ctrl+C kills the current process.


awesome thanks. I figured it was something like that.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby phoenixineohp » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:05 am UTC

I just get the clear impression that if the character was wearing a black hat the last panel would have him sitting with his arms crossed, impressed at this new discovery.

This is one of the first computer jokes I have really laughed at. Even I got what the ctrl c was and I'm hopeless at computer stuff. Fantastic comic.


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