1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:10 am UTC

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Neil_Boekend wrote:ETA: 11MC/sec

I'm only at 7.8 MC/sec but I've left it idle for long periods of time. And I didn't realize until I'd done it a few times that selling old structures doesn't really help much.

I'm at 23 MC/sec but I need to work on my impulses...I keep buying cheaper structures to unlock upgrades when I really should be saving up for the Time Machines..

I spend millions of cookies on a misinterpretation of the Neverclick achievment.
I thought I just needed to get the cookies per click up to 66.666,7 and click 15 times, to make 1MC with 15 clicks. Now I understand the name: you must make 1MC before you click more than 15 times (which means you can't click anymore after you can buy the first cursor. Then you gotta wait for the cursor to pay for a new cursor. Then wait for those two to pay for a new cursor and so on until you reach 1MC. Since I already clicked 2.779 times this achievement is impossible to reach without a reset. Hmm, but if I reset at the right point I can reach some of the hidden achievments, to be precise: Sacrifice, Oblivion and From Scratch).

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:24 am UTC

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Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:27 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:32 am UTC

Question: Would the newpix change at the same Time, or would they be staggered? Would one newpix change at a faster rate?

Or is Xzibit a raptorish fiend who deliberately "forgot" the Javascript so the newpix will always be stuck on Newpix One?!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:34 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:41 am UTC

BlitzGirl - I think the inner one would change at a faster rate. After all, the whole point is waiting for it while you wait for it! If they change at the same rate at the same time, it's really just waiting for it. If that makes sense. :P

And I dunno about Xzibit, but Yappo is a raptorish fiend who didn't even make any other newpix, let alone javascript, so you can wait for it all you want but it won't change... although this is the OTT, I wouldn't put it past people to do so...
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Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:42 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Question: Would the newpix change at the same Time, or would they be staggered? Would one newpix change at a faster rate?

Or is Xzibit a raptorish fiend who deliberately "forgot" the Javascript so the newpix will always be stuck on Newpix One?!
The inner newpix goes all the way through Time and then loops back to the start as the outer newpix steps forward by 1, making 9,603,801 unique newpix.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:44 am UTC

Yes ED, that's exactly how it should be done!

And all of time would be measured according to this new system. "It's currently 2371 shortpix past 253 longpix"...
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Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:49 am UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:Yes ED, that's exactly how it should be done!

And all of time would be measured according to this new system. "It's currently 2371 shortpix past 253 longpix"...
That's 89.7142 yips.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:50 am UTC

Either those longpix are fairly long or those shortpix are pretty short...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mrob27 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:05 am UTC

I (mrob27) wrote:I did read LotR and agreed with the author that "the book is too short" :o and this business of poignant poety sent between two time-travellers at different points in Time is just the sort of thing LotR would have if it were (epic) sci-fi rather than (epic) fantasy.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:06 am UTC

Hmm it seams the tip point for upgrades in cookie clicker is not completely constant. Details spoilered because they may spoil your fun in the game.
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For most buildings it's more effective to build the first "Double the output" then to build new buildings when you have 15 of them already. For Time machines it's 14. (ignoring the cookies you can bake with the new building while you save for the upgrade. That's too difficult to calculate and seems to have way to many variables)
For example:
Once you have 14 grandma's a new grandma costs 704 C and gives you one grandma in extra production. Steel-plated rolling pins costs 10,000 C and gives you 14 grandma's of production. This means that Steel-plated rolling pins is 14 times as valuable as a single grandma. Thus it can cost 14 times as much. That is 9,856 C. Not worth it.
However, once you have bought the 15th grandma the new grandma would cost 814 C. The Steel-plated rolling pins still cost 10,000 C and they now give 15 grandma's of production. That's worth 12,210 C (ignoring time-based effects)

The 14th Time machine costs 759,603,403 C. The Time paradox resolver costs 9,876,543,210 C. 14 * 759,603,403 = 10,634,447,642. More than the 9 GC the Time Paradox resolver costs. That's one machine sooner.

If I have the time I'll calculate the other upgrades to. The first upgrade will be the last to be calculated because it's more difficult.
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Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:07 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:08 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:12 am UTC

@lmjb1964: Yeah, several of us are currently making cookies because it gives us something to Wait for while we Wait for it.
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I (mrob27) wrote:I did read LotR and agreed with the author that "the book is too short" :o and this business of poignant poety sent between two time-travellers at different points in Time is just the sort of thing LotR would have if it were (epic) sci-fi rather than (epic) fantasy.


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Grandma

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:14 am UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:Hmm it seams the tip point for upgrades in cookie clicker is not completely constant. Details spoilered because they may spoil your fun in the game.
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For most buildings it's more effective to build the first "Double the output" then to build new buildings when you have 15 of them already. For Time machines it's 14. (ignoring the cookies you can bake with the new building while you save for the upgrade. That's too difficult to calculate and seems to have way to many variables)
For example:
Once you have 14 grandma's a new grandma costs 704 C and gives you one grandma in extra production. Steel-plated rolling pins costs 10,000 C and gives you 14 grandma's of production. This means that Steel-plated rolling pins is 14 times as valuable as a single grandma. Thus it can cost 14 times as much. That is 9,856 C. Not worth it.
However, once you have bought the 15th grandma the new grandma would cost 814 C. The Steel-plated rolling pins still cost 10,000 C and they now give 15 grandma's of production. That's worth 12,210 C (ignoring time-based effects)

The 14th Time machine costs 759,603,403 C. The Time paradox resolver costs 9,876,543,210 C. 14 * 759,603,403 = 10,634,447,642. More than the 9 GC the Time Paradox resolver costs. That's one machine sooner.

If I have the time I'll calculate the other upgrades to. The first upgrade will be the last to be calculated because it's more difficult.
One slight issue with your calculations is that when you have 14 grandmas, buying 14 more grandmas is not 14 times the cost of the 15th grandma...

ETA has anyone noticed the javascript?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:15 am UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:Hmm it seams the tip point for upgrades in cookie clicker is not completely constant. Details spoilered because they may spoil your fun in the game.
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For most buildings it's more effective to build the first "Double the output" then to build new buildings when you have 15 of them already. For Time machines it's 14. (ignoring the cookies you can bake with the new building while you save for the upgrade. That's too difficult to calculate and seems to have way to many variables)
For example:
Once you have 14 grandma's a new grandma costs 704 C and gives you one grandma in extra production. Steel-plated rolling pins costs 10,000 C and gives you 14 grandma's of production. This means that Steel-plated rolling pins is 14 times as valuable as a single grandma. Thus it can cost 14 times as much. That is 9,856 C. Not worth it.
However, once you have bought the 15th grandma the new grandma would cost 814 C. The Steel-plated rolling pins still cost 10,000 C and they now give 15 grandma's of production. That's worth 12,210 C (ignoring time-based effects)

The 14th Time machine costs 759,603,403 C. The Time paradox resolver costs 9,876,543,210 C. 14 * 759,603,403 = 10,634,447,642. More than the 9 GC the Time Paradox resolver costs. That's one machine sooner.

If I have the time I'll calculate the other upgrades to. The first upgrade will be the last to be calculated because it's more difficult.


What's the best strategy for late-game? Just prioritize Time Machines? I can't decide between that and trying for 100 of each thing for the achievements...

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Re: Nopixly OSH

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:18 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Have the new OSH, same as the old OSH (not solved yet):
OSH

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What newpix is he from?

I think I've finally got this... 1139?

It was a tricky one, since I was pretty sure it must be from the sandcastle era since he didn't have a bag. But of course, there were occasional times when they took their bags off while journeying...
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Re: Grandma

Postby ChronosDragon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:21 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:One slight issue with your calculations is that when you have 14 grandmas, buying 14 more grandmas is not 14 times the cost of the 15th grandma...


Out of context, this quote is quite humourous.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:24 am UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:
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BlitzGirl wrote:Have the new OSH, same as the old OSH (not solved yet):
OSH

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This is Cueball.
What newpix is he from?

I think I've finally got this... 1139?

It was a tricky one, since I was pretty sure it must be from the sandcastle era since he didn't have a bag. But of course, there were occasional times when they took their bags off while journeying...

That's correct! Hurray! Cookies for you!
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Re: Grandma

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:26 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:Hmm it seams the tip point for upgrades in cookie clicker is not completely constant. Details spoilered because they may spoil your fun in the game.
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For most buildings it's more effective to build the first "Double the output" then to build new buildings when you have 15 of them already. For Time machines it's 14. (ignoring the cookies you can bake with the new building while you save for the upgrade. That's too difficult to calculate and seems to have way to many variables)
For example:
Once you have 14 grandma's a new grandma costs 704 C and gives you one grandma in extra production. Steel-plated rolling pins costs 10,000 C and gives you 14 grandma's of production. This means that Steel-plated rolling pins is 14 times as valuable as a single grandma. Thus it can cost 14 times as much. That is 9,856 C. Not worth it.
However, once you have bought the 15th grandma the new grandma would cost 814 C. The Steel-plated rolling pins still cost 10,000 C and they now give 15 grandma's of production. That's worth 12,210 C (ignoring time-based effects)

The 14th Time machine costs 759,603,403 C. The Time paradox resolver costs 9,876,543,210 C. 14 * 759,603,403 = 10,634,447,642. More than the 9 GC the Time Paradox resolver costs. That's one machine sooner.

If I have the time I'll calculate the other upgrades to. The first upgrade will be the last to be calculated because it's more difficult.
One slight issue with your calculations is that when you have 14 grandmas, buying 14 more grandmas is not 14 times the cost of the 15th grandma...

Hmm. True. It's 814 + 814 * 1.15 + 814 * 1.152 + 814 * 1.153 + 814 * 1.154 + 814 * 1.155 + 814 * 1.156 + 814 * 1.157 + 814 * 1.158 814 * 1.159I'm not going to enter the rest of the calculation.
But I can never account for the amount of cookies you can bake with the grandma's you can afford now while saving for the Steel-plated rolling pins. In other words whether you'll be able to afford the Steel-plated rolling pins sooner if you buy some more grandma's now to help with production. I just hope they cancel each other out.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:38 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:That's correct! Hurray! Cookies for you!
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Wooo, thanks! :mrgreen:

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or just leave it to bake

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:40 am UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:That's correct! Hurray! Cookies for you!
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Wooo, thanks! :mrgreen:

On a RELATED note, HELP ME IT'S 8:30AM AND I HAVEN'T MOLPIED DOWN YET AND I REALLY SHOULD BUT I CAN'T STOP MAKING COOKIES.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:41 am UTC

I can't help you.

No one can help you.

Unless GLR makes a sequel to Time and saves us all from the cookies.
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Re: or just leave it to bake

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:41 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:
yappobiscuits wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:That's correct! Hurray! Cookies for you!
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Wooo, thanks! :mrgreen:

On a RELATED note, HELP ME IT'S 8:30AM AND I HAVEN'T MOLPIED DOWN YET AND I REALLY SHOULD BUT I CAN'T STOP MAKING COOKIES.
Well if you have to close it, it'll remember your progress by saving it... in a cookie.

Or you can export the save game to a text string.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:44 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:52 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:I can't help you.

No one can help you.

Unless GLR makes a sequel to Time and saves us all from the cookies.

Well he IS our divine lord and saviour... It is written in the scriptures that the Great Lord will return to us once again at our time of greatest peril, to save us all from the Cookiepocalypse!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:53 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie grapevine grapevine.

*Steals BlitzGirl's 12 cookies*
cookie cookie cookie.
*Buys first cursor with those cookies*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:53 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie grapevine grapevine.

Wowterful.... now I'm baking cookies, too :-(
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:02 am UTC

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BlitzGirl wrote:I can't help you.

No one can help you.

Unless GLR makes a sequel to Time and saves us all from the cookies.

Well he IS our divine lord and saviour... It is written in the scriptures that the Great Lord will return to us once again at our time of greatest peril, to save us all from the Cookiepocalypse!

This calls for a revival of the Lord Randall's Prayer, first posted by Smithers on Newpage 197, now with some slight changes:

Our Randall who arts in comics,
GLR be thy name.
Thy molpies come.
Thy will be done
on the beach as it is in the semencoffeebabies.
Give us this dip our diply Wait,
and forgive us our comas,
as we forgive those who skip OTT newpages,
and lead us not into impatience,
but deliver us from cookies
For thine is the castle,
and the treeishness, and the wowterfulness,
for ever and ever.
Amen.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:07 am UTC

Woot, I just crossed the 100 MC/sec. Although it was with a golden cookie x7 modifier it was awefulsome!
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cOOkificaTion!

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:08 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:12 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie grapevine grapevine.


Now I am into cookie business, too... :-(
As a cookie rookie I've to ask: What's that thing with the milk?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:16 am UTC

Yeah I don't really know what the milk is about either...
BlitzGirl wrote:Our Randall who arts in comics,
GLR be thy name.
Thy molpies come.
Thy will be done
on the beach as it is in the semencoffeebabies.
Give us this dip our diply Wait,
and forgive us our comas,
as we forgive those who skip OTT newpages,
and lead us not into impatience,
but deliver us from cookies
For thine is the castle,
and the treeishness, and the wowterfulness,
for ever and ever.
Amen.

Amen, and wait for it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:17 am UTC

higgs-boson wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie grapevine grapevine.


Now I am into cookie business, too... :-(
As a cookie rookie I've to ask: What's that thing with the milk?

Your milk percentage is 4% per achievement. The kitten upgrades (kitten helpers, kitten workers and kitten engineers) increase cookies production based on the milk % with the following formula:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:19 am UTC

Ahh, neat! I got one of those kitten things just because... yay kittens. But nice to know what they do :P (I wondered if perhaps they made the cookies redundant...)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:19 am UTC

I have come to the conclusion that COOKIE is a synonym for EVIL.

The current state of nopix leaves us OTTers vulnerable to such dark influences.
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